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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Nov 2, 2021 14:31:09 GMT -5
My perspective is that us opening up the trading window after the World Series before roster decisions are due unfairly benefits the top teams in the league, including mine in the past couple years. It allows teams to trade for expiring players at the deadline and then get something for them after the season rather than trading for them like a true rental when they are in a playoff run.
I think it would further add to league parity if all trading closed at the trade deadline and didn't open until teams had submitted their roster decisions and we moved onto the next league year. This is how MLB does it, and I'm not sure why we allow it in our league.
Trading closes at the Regular Season Trade Deadline. Teams may not trade players until after team decisions are submitted going into the following year.
Thoughts?
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Nov 2, 2021 14:36:55 GMT -5
I've been saying this for years. I hate this trade period, it only helps the competing teams.
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Nov 2, 2021 14:47:38 GMT -5
A couple reasons I think it should stay open:
- More accurately reflects MLB (guys do get traded in that post WS window)
- Gives guys another reason to be active and around in that time (less down time)
What if we just made it so expiring players can't be dealt in that period? Because I do agree with you both that it's lame that we can just flip expiring rentals as tag guys to other teams. Feel like that's an way to easily address that.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Nov 2, 2021 14:56:11 GMT -5
A couple reasons I think it should stay open: - More accurately reflects MLB (guys do get traded in that post WS window) - Gives guys another reason to be active and around in that time (less down time) What if we just made it so expiring players can't be dealt in that period? Because I do agree with you both that it's lame that we can just flip expiring rentals as tag guys to other teams. Feel like that's an way to easily address that. I think we would start the team decision window immediately following the season. So there wouldn't be downtime at all. Mid-September - BKDB World Series End of September - End of MLB Regular Season First 2-3 weeks of October - Team decision window/Start of Amateur Draft (so there will be a lot going on). Rosters are then rolled over to the next year. End of October - Trading Opens |
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Post by Cardinals GM (Nik) on Nov 2, 2021 14:59:55 GMT -5
I’m in favor of this
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Nov 2, 2021 15:04:19 GMT -5
- More accurately reflects MLB (guys do get traded in that post WS window) MLB teams aren't trading expiring contracts though... |
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Nov 2, 2021 16:39:19 GMT -5
- More accurately reflects MLB (guys do get traded in that post WS window) MLB teams aren't trading expiring contracts though... "What if we just made it so expiring players can't be dealt in that period?" Gotcha covered 😁 |
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Nov 2, 2021 16:47:57 GMT -5
I’m in favor of your suggestion
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Post by Blue Jays GM (Stephen) on Nov 3, 2021 16:26:03 GMT -5
I like it with Mike's tweak. Expiring deals can't be dealt, but guys on contracts for the next season can.
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Post by Blue Jays GM (Stephen) on Nov 3, 2021 16:38:19 GMT -5
Would also suggest that team decisions have to be done by the end of the world series which makes this a moot point and rosters can be rolled over right after the world series is done and commence trading again.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Nov 4, 2021 10:22:00 GMT -5
Poll added to the top. We can discuss how specifically to do this (if we just prevent expirings from being traded, etc before decisions need to be submitted). This is just a vote to change the rule that allows teams to trade expiring players after the season for something.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Nov 4, 2021 11:24:07 GMT -5
If this passes, that means you better already have your Franchise Tag on your roster. I don't think it's just helpful for competing teams.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Nov 4, 2021 14:45:27 GMT -5
If this passes, that means you better already have your Franchise Tag on your roster. I don't think it's just helpful for competing teams. True. Should balance out though... we should have more free agents that the rebuilding teams can sign. |
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Nov 4, 2021 15:09:26 GMT -5
If this passes, that means you better already have your Franchise Tag on your roster. I don't think it's just helpful for competing teams. True. Should balance out though... we should have more free agents that the rebuilding teams can sign. Not if we take away their cap money for forgetting to plug Luke Maile into the starting lineup... |
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Nov 12, 2021 16:18:19 GMT -5
More votes!
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Nov 28, 2021 17:29:14 GMT -5
A couple more votes on this... looks like this will be a change heading into next off-season.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Dec 2, 2021 15:30:00 GMT -5
Okay, moving forward on this. This has been up for a month and will now be the new way of business in BKDB.
New fall schedule will look like:
August - Trade Deadline
September - End of Playoffs
October - Amateur Draft & Roster Decisions
November - Rosters are turned over + Trading Opens
January - Free Agency
February - International Draft
April - Start of Season
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Dec 2, 2021 17:07:18 GMT -5
Moving forward without a league majority in favor?
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Dec 2, 2021 17:56:19 GMT -5
Moving forward without a league majority in favor? It's 13-4... with multiple calls for people to vote and put their opinions in. Nothing? |
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Dec 2, 2021 19:03:15 GMT -5
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Dec 2, 2021 20:10:09 GMT -5
Idk if 5-13 matters, but I meant to vote yes. I think it adds an interesting dynamic that's kinda fun. All for moving them. I thought no meant leave it as is. I changed my vote so it's correctly represented now.
Also, I think you guys get caught up in, oh MLB does this. Does that. Well MLB is in a lockout, let's tear everything down and rewrite our rules (hell no, I'm only making a point). Fantasy baseball is fun, and everything doesn't have to be perfectly aligned with MLB.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jul 5, 2022 20:11:57 GMT -5
Update to this rule... oversight on my part not clarifying it:
After the MLB season is over, a window will open where teams may trade players prior to making off-season roster decisions (extensions, arbitration, team options). Any player can be traded who is UNDER contract for the upcoming season. A player set to be a free agent that winter may not be traded. The window will then close, whereafter off-season roster decisions will be made.
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