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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Sept 20, 2022 19:13:25 GMT -5
This proposal combines both drafts into one starting in the 2023 offseason.
Edit: 2024 J2 signees would be eligible to be drafted starting with the 2024-2025 combined draft (December 2024).
Edit: Following the conclusion of Round #6, the combined draft would pause until February 15th at which point, rounds 7-12 would start.
Proposed 2023 Off-season Schedule
October 4, 2023 - MLB Regular Season Ends
October 15, 2023- Trading Opens
Nov 11, 2023 - Trading Closes
Nov 18, 2023 - Roster Decisions Due/Rosters turned over to next season to reflect 2024 salaries.
Dec 1, 2023 - Start of combined draft rounds 1-6 and trading opens back up
Draft pause at the end of Round 6 (Date to be determined)
Jan 26 2024 - Start of Free Agency
Feb 15, 2024 - Draft Rounds 7-12 begins
Apr 1, 2024 - Start of the 2024 BKDB Season
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 20, 2022 20:04:06 GMT -5
I still prefer if instead we get amateur draft back during season.
with your suggestion, I'm against this because I think having it as 2 separate drafts will chew up the offseason more as opposed to one draft. For example, start draft early Oct,then it's over mid Nov, early Dec. Break until FA starts early Jan. FA is over around 3 weeks ish. Then start next draft Feb, and boom. Season starts right when its over.
With your proposed schedule, have Oct off, and I bet draft finish by March, so we also have March off. I think having it separate makes more sense.
If though, with 1 draft, we can trade more picks, then I'll vote yes for that reason alone.
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Post by Blue Jays GM (Stephen) on Sept 21, 2022 13:53:31 GMT -5
I like this. I have always felt that there is a bit of a "dead period" and then we do both Free Agency and the draft at the same time which can get confusing. I like the idea of spacing out the fun (Later start to free agency) and combining the draft into 1. This would also decrease the incentive of tanking because now instead of two top tier players you get 1. Not that it disincentivizes it that much, but definitely odd to have two drafts with two somewhat different pools of players. I can see where that was useful starting out, but I think where this league is, low turnover amongst teams, the teams that do turnover aren't ones that are selling everything to win or something like that, and I think even if there is a bare bones team I know there would be people interested in taking over. In short, I am in favor.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Sept 21, 2022 16:12:17 GMT -5
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 21, 2022 16:44:04 GMT -5
One more thing I thought about: i like a draft in Feb-Mar because i like to watch Spring Training for guys that can be drafted. That's a boost to depth players for a team (big reason I have a ton of backups). This would completely kill that aspect.
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Sept 21, 2022 17:03:01 GMT -5
One more thing I thought about: i like a draft in Feb-Mar because i like to watch Spring Training for guys that can be drafted. That's a boost to depth players for a team (big reason I have a ton of backups). This would completely kill that aspect. name 3 guys you’ve found that were not already taken |
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 21, 2022 17:23:43 GMT -5
Greg Soto, Packy Naughton, Victor Reyes (I think). Most recently Jose Azocar this year. I do this every single year. Mostly backup RP, which is why I don't go nuts in FA over RP. Can always find it on a teams 40 man.
Art Warren, Ponce De Leon (sucks), Yefry Ramirez (also)
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 21, 2022 17:26:55 GMT -5
I got a list of guys like this that I can draft this year if I want. Go through my last 7 years of International Drafts if ya want more examples. Need the link?
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 21, 2022 18:10:26 GMT -5
I like this idea too. Maybe we could do the first 6 rounds before Christmas and pause the clock for Christmas-January and then do the next 6 rounds in Feb-Mar when we get more training notes? Let's just open all picks up for trading.
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Sept 21, 2022 18:21:08 GMT -5
I like this idea too. Maybe we could do the first 6 rounds before Christmas and pause the clock for Christmas-January and then do the next 6 rounds in Feb-Mar when we get more training notes? Let's just open all picks up for trading. That’s not a terrible idea. |
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Sept 21, 2022 18:24:06 GMT -5
One more thing I thought about: i like a draft in Feb-Mar because i like to watch Spring Training for guys that can be drafted. That's a boost to depth players for a team (big reason I have a ton of backups). This would completely kill that aspect. I feel like you could make a similar argument for waiting until February to start free agency as well. |
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Post by Phillies GM (Zach) on Sept 22, 2022 4:58:38 GMT -5
I like Alex’s suggestion to pause because it will allow us to fill more offseason time as Travis pointed out. I would love to be able to get the amateur draft back in the regular season but this is a nice alternative.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 22, 2022 15:38:01 GMT -5
I like this idea too. Maybe we could do the first 6 rounds before Christmas and pause the clock for Christmas-January and then do the next 6 rounds in Feb-Mar when we get more training notes? Let's just open all picks up for trading. That’s not a terrible idea. Thanks, Tim! Should we update the proposal to reflect that? Or any other ideas? |
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 22, 2022 17:43:04 GMT -5
...I feel like pausing is the exact same thing as having 2 separate drafts.....
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 23, 2022 12:02:28 GMT -5
I approve with the "pause" change, after our discussion in discord.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 25, 2022 11:38:14 GMT -5
One problem we've brought up is the fact that the J2 guys dont sign until January 15th, 2023... limiting our ability to start a combined draft prior to that date.
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Sept 25, 2022 11:40:17 GMT -5
Tim suggested in chat how to fix it
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Sept 25, 2022 22:17:39 GMT -5
One problem we've brought up is the fact that the J2 guys dont sign until January 15th, 2023... limiting our ability to start a combined draft prior to that date. What if we kept drafts separate and actually just made them what they’re supposed to be - amateur draft is only amateur players, MILB is J2 and unowned minors. Solves the problem, doesn’t create really stupid “11th round picks” |
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Sept 26, 2022 0:43:24 GMT -5
One problem we've brought up is the fact that the J2 guys dont sign until January 15th, 2023... limiting our ability to start a combined draft prior to that date. What if we kept drafts separate and actually just made them what they’re supposed to be - amateur draft is only amateur players, MILB is J2 and unowned minors. Solves the problem, doesn’t create really stupid “11th round picks” Are there even 6 rounds worth of J2 guys to draft ? |
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 26, 2022 9:08:00 GMT -5
What if we kept drafts separate and actually just made them what they’re supposed to be - amateur draft is only amateur players, MILB is J2 and unowned minors. Solves the problem, doesn’t create really stupid “11th round picks” Are there even 6 rounds worth of J2 guys to draft ? There's definitely twelves rounds of players to draft between the J2, unowned guys, and college players. We should keep all 12 rounds. |
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 26, 2022 9:18:48 GMT -5
Here's my proposal... for this off-season we keep the drafts separate as normal, but going forward....
Benefits for this proposal is:
- The draft is combined. Picks can be traded.
- The correct J2 guys and combined with the previous summer's college/HS players
- The draft will continue towards the beginning of the season... making it easier to draft guys we see likely to get MLB playing time.
Proposed 2023 Off-season Schedule
October 4, 2023 - MLB Regular Season Ends
October 4, 2023- Trading Opens
Nov 1, 2023 - Trading Closes
Dec. 1, 2023 - Roster Decisions Due/Rosters turned over to next season to reflect 2024 salaries.
Dec 1, 2023 - Trading Opens
Jan 2, 2024 - Start of Free Agency
Feb 2, 2024 - 12 Round First Year Player Draft
Apr 1, 2024 - Start of the 2024 BKDB Season
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Sept 26, 2022 10:38:18 GMT -5
I would be on board with it, but do you think we can complete 12 rounds in 2 months? I think we might need to adjust the draft pick clock. A sliding scale perhaps...24 hours for rounds 1-4, 18 hours for rounds 5-12.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Sept 29, 2022 12:18:15 GMT -5
I would be on board with it, but do you think we can complete 12 rounds in 2 months? I think we might need to adjust the draft pick clock. A sliding scale perhaps...24 hours for rounds 1-4, 18 hours for rounds 5-12. We used to have < 24hr clocks but it is brutal and unforgiving. I think 24hr is the minimum in case someone runs into some more pressing IRL stuff and shouldn't be an issue as long as Caleb is active. |
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 29, 2022 12:34:25 GMT -5
I think we could make it through 12 rounds in 2 months with a 24 hour clock. And even if it stretches into the season, is that really a problem? It gives us a chance to use the last quarter of the draft to pick guys who are showing promise early in the year at the MLB level we didn't expect?
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Oct 1, 2022 13:20:40 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy. 12×30 = 360 picks. 2 months is approximately 60 days. That'd be 6 picks a day to finish in 2 months. I'd be happy if we had 4 picks a day. Idt it's a big deal if it runs into the regular season though, in my opinion. Not playoff season, or trade deadline season, so we can draft and set lineups for maybe a month no prob.
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