Poll in regards to roster cuts

[astrosgm]

Hey guys, was thinking over the rules, and a pm from one of our members to myself, and it made me start to ponder.

Right now if you cut a guy (and just say you signed him 5 years at 16 mil) you would be on the hook for that 8 mil over the next 5 years.

I have 2 proposals:

1) Let it stay the same as is.

2) When you cut a guy, say contract as the one listed above, you would only be on the hook for the year you cut him (half his salary still). This would enable it easier for teams to get under cap, and more willing) , would make it easier on us commishes in tracking cap cuts, and would add to the FA pool with more owners being able to cut guys.

And for thosewho dislike the idea number two, I have a counteroffer of some sorts as you feel people would just get out of contracts.

In doing so (cutting), teams would also be forfeiting draft picks based off a scale (not created yet) for how much total (per year, not the contract as a whole) has been released.

Example being 6th round pick = X amount of dollars
5th round pick = X amount of dollars,

then 4th and 6th for x amount of dollars and etc


Share your opinion below, and vote on the poll please.

Thank you, as always,

Gregg, Astros

[Orioles GM (Michael)]

I don't know how this would work for guys with super high contracts, but how bout we could just absorb the half salary however we wanted. For example, if a guy's salary was 16M over 5 years, I'd be on the hook for 40M of it, and I could choose to put that in my expenses however I wanted over those 5 years? We could set a minimum take per year so it's not a guy absorbing 40M 1 year, but I think that could be better, because I think it's unfair that someone can just get out of a contract.

[Deleted]

I think this would lead to some ridiculous contracts and basically allow people to free themselves from mistakes they've made almost without penalty. Imagine if MLB teams could do this... I think it's a bad idea.

You shouldn't be allowed to commit to a contract if you can't pay it (or at least half).

[astrosgm]

Jul 26, 2011 22:39:19 GMT -5 Orioles GM (Michael) said:

I don't know how this would work for guys with super high contracts, but how bout we could just absorb the half salary however we wanted. For example, if a guy's salary was 16M over 5 years, I'd be on the hook for 40M of it, and I could choose to put that in my expenses however I wanted over those 5 years? We could set a minimum take per year so it's not a guy absorbing 40M 1 year, but I think that could be better, because I think it's unfair that someone can just get out of a contract.

That would require too much work our part as co commishes, the part where you could divide it, and is unfair to other people as it should just be set the same per every year. If you cut a guy, his cap hit should not be advantageous in anyway.

And I do agree in the fact that it is a tad unfair, but we could set somthing along the lines of forfeiting of draft picks for magnitude of the contract and how many guys they release

[astrosgm]

Jul 26, 2011 22:39:58 GMT -5 @khabibul35 said:

I think this would lead to some ridiculous contracts and basically allow people to free themselves from mistakes they've made almost without penalty. Imagine if MLB teams could do this... I think it's a bad idea.

You shouldn't be allowed to commit to a contract if you can't pay it (or at least half).

Read what I posted above about the forfeiture of draft picks Slava, I'm sure that is a very productive counter

[Jacob (Former Tigers GM)]

I don't like either, both seem way to complicated, just leave it.

[astrosgm]

No offense intented Jake, but it really isn't that complicated, and it could benefit alot of teams as well.

And as far as complications go and set up, I myself could do all the work, and make it easier on everybody else

[marlinsgmhj]

I like the counteroffer.
It gives you the opportunity to make mistakes.
You'll get a penalty,but it's not gonna mess up your whole season.
And let's be honest,we all make mistakes,right?

[Deleted]

Either #2 or the counteroffer works.

Also, since we're discussing paying salaries, can we discuss paying for salaries in trades? Truthfully, I don't see a problem wirh it. It adds another dimension to trading (not hard to keep track of either) and allows for teams with huge contract players to be able to move those players. Plus, it's like the real MLB. Sorry if bringing this up is trolling your thread Astros haha...thoughts?

[Jacob (Former Tigers GM)]

I agree trading salary is really easy.

[tmcook14]

Jul 26, 2011 22:39:19 GMT -5 Orioles GM (Michael) said:

I don't know how this would work for guys with super high contracts, but how bout we could just absorb the half salary however we wanted. For example, if a guy's salary was 16M over 5 years, I'd be on the hook for 40M of it, and I could choose to put that in my expenses however I wanted over those 5 years? We could set a minimum take per year so it's not a guy absorbing 40M 1 year, but I think that could be better, because I think it's unfair that someone can just get out of a contract.

This is what we do in my other league on proboards....it hasn't caused any massive dumping of contracts and when you release someone like that you are required to include how much of the contract you are going to eat each of the years....then you add that to the bottom of your roster page under contracts responsible for....it is a very simple thing to do...you can drop minors with no penalty at all as long as they are at the minors .3 contract...

[Deleted]

Jul 27, 2011 7:08:21 GMT -5 Jacob (Former Tigers GM) said:

I agree trading salary is really easy.

Yeah thats my view on it

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

Okay, so the minor league dropping is already in place (what darla suggested). I really don't like the latter... I could sign Albert Pujols for like 6 years @ 50m and then just get out of it in 2013 by paying only 25m and then 3 years just disapear... so I'll say no.. keep it the way it is, if you mess up, live with it.