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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 23:43:40 GMT -5
Nationals Send:
C Wilson Ramos: 0.4
RP Tyler Clippard 0.4
Astros Send:
C Victor Martinez 12m
OF JD Martinez 0.3
RP Daniel Bard
Even though i add cap here, i agree as i get a good catcher, a solid OF that is under control, and Dan Bard, one of the better set up guys. Astros cuts more cap and gets arguably the best setup guy in the league (2nd best in points i believe) and a cost controlled catcher with tons of room for improvement.
Astros to confirm...
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Post by astrosuck on Sept 6, 2011 23:49:33 GMT -5
love ramos...accpt
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 0:41:34 GMT -5
Veto
Martinez > Ramos (3.44 Points per game vs. 2.73 PPG)
Bard > Clippard (4.81 PPG vs 5.62 PPG) -> OK so Clippard has better stats but Bard has the brighter future.
On top of this, Astros throws in Martinez. Seams pretty lopsided.
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Post by marlinsgmhj on Sept 7, 2011 9:35:15 GMT -5
Veto.
V.Martinez and D.Bard are more proven players then Ramos and Clippard.
All 4 good players,but throw them in a trade and i would say someone is getting the better deal here.
Adding JD Martinez has clinched it for me to veto this trade.
Astros is giving to much here.
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Post by fogle429 on Sept 7, 2011 16:46:58 GMT -5
I approve.
Clippard and Bard is a push. Bard might have the "brighter future" (not definate), but Clippard is doing it now. V Mart is 32 and slowly fading, while Ramos is on the rise. So V-Mart and JDM for Ramos is pretty even in my eyes.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 7, 2011 17:04:56 GMT -5
Sorry, I veto. V-mart is one of the best hitting catchers in the game this year and has a few years left in him.
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Sept 7, 2011 17:10:47 GMT -5
Veto. Big time, you guys cant over look J.D., kids pretty good too.
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Post by philliesgm on Sept 7, 2011 18:55:15 GMT -5
I approve. The RP are a wash (slightly higher for Clippard) and I actually value Ramos over V-Mart past this year if you look at age, production and CONTRACT. There is a reason that he's moving him.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 8, 2011 15:53:05 GMT -5
4 vetoes to 2 approves. Sorry guys, cancelled.
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