Nationals/White Sox Trade

[Dave (Former Nationals GM)]

Nationals Trade:

Jason Kipnis (16 10.3M;17 11.4M) B 6 of 7

Henderson Alvarez (16-18 12M)

to White Sox

for

Dexter Fowler (16 9M & 17 option 9M)

Trevor Bauer 3 of 7 (.8M)

Nationals accept, hate to trade Jason Kipnis (one of my favorites) but have some depth at 2B and can use the OF position and the depth in the rotation.

Also a big boost picking up some extra salary

thanks for the trade Sox and best of luck

[White Sox GM (Caleb)]

Whitesox Accept.

Again still new, so i hope im not undervaluing Bauer. I have literally no SS or 2nd baseman so picking one up, espeicially with the caliber of Kipnis is big for me. I still have Kim, Kepler, Polanco, and Buxton in the OF Fowler was expendable. Obviously Henerson is still hurt, but it wasn't that long ago he was an all-star. Again i also have a lot of young SP coming up soon.

[White Sox GM (Caleb)]

Totally my fault, but will say that Dbacks just let me know I can't resign Kipnis. I had no idea and when going through rules I thought I could franchise or RFA tag. Anyways don't want you to punish Nats for my stupidity but I wouldn't have done this if I had known.

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

Veto. A lot to give up for a b arb guy entering his last season. Plus, new guy didn't know.

[Astros GM (Will)]

Veto. Ditto what Kyle said.

[Braves GM (Jared)]

Veto because the Sox didn't know how arb works just yet

[Dave (Former Nationals GM)]

I didn't either sorry Caleb

[Mariners GM (Phil)]

I'll throw the 4th veto out, it was a mistake no problem, deal is cancelled

[White Sox GM (Caleb)]

Is anybody able to explain to me why there is no chance he would be able to be resigned? I thought you could RFA or franchise any player

[Astros GM (Will)]

Copy/paste from the constitution below (see bold for distinction).

Option B arbitration allows the owner to guarantee a 4-year contract after pre-arbitration is over (years 1-3). In exchange for the ability to grant a subsidized 4-year contract, your team must release the player at the end of the contract.

                                                        Arbitration


A player who has fulfilled three years of service at his Pre-Arb Salary will be eligible for Arbitration if the team decides to offer it. This will happen during the re-signing period in the off-season, where teams will have the option to give new contracts to their free agents. Teams may opt not to keep a player, and they will become a free agent. The system is as follows:

After a player has exceed 100 AB or 40 IP in a season, their first three years of MLB service will be under Prospect Protection. These players can be cut at any time for no penalty during their three years.

Year 1 - 300k
Year 2 - 800k
Year 3 - 800k

Year 4: When a player hits Year 4 of MLB service, the team has two options for this player.

- Option A is that the team can offer the player an arbitration contract. This contract will be determined by taking $20k x points scored (for hitters) or $25k x points scored (for pitchers). This process will be repeated Year-By-Year to create a new contract for the player.

- Option B is that a team can offer the player a buyout. This contract will be determined by taking $20k x points scored (for hitters) or $25k x points scored (for pitchers). Teams will then pay 70% of this contract in Year 4, 80% in Year 5, 90% in Year 6, and 100% in Year 7.

Year 5: Players under Option A will be given a new ARB contract, and players under Option B will be paid 80% of the contract created in Year 4.

Year 6: Players under Option A will be given a new ARB contract, and players under Option B will be paid 90% of the contract created in Year 4.

Year 7: Players under Option A will be given a new ARB contract, and players under Option B will be paid 100% of the contract created in Year 4.

Year 8: Players will no longer be eligible for Arbitration. A player who received Option A can be re-signed with a franchise or restriction tag in the upcoming free agency. However, a player who received Option B will not be able to be re-signed and must become a free agent.

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

Aug 19, 2016 18:20:06 GMT -5 White Sox GM (Caleb) said:

Is anybody able to explain to me why there is no chance he would be able to be resigned? I thought you could RFA or franchise any player

Based on our league rules you have 2 options when a player goes to arbitration his first season. You can A arb him which means that each year his salary is based on his previous year's performance. The percentage each season goes up. B arb is essentially a team buying out a players arb years but the result is that they become an UFA once the b arb deal is over.

[Dave (Former Nationals GM)]

What does it mean for type a free agents - do they becom ufs after their contract expires as well

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

A arb players you have the option to franchise or R-tag them when they become FA.

[Dave (Former Nationals GM)]

Ok thanks

[Astros GM (Will)]

Here's the rest of the reading material: baseknock.proboards.com/thread/14?page=1

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

4 vetoes. Deal is cancelled.