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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 10, 2018 19:51:30 GMT -5
Okay. Well, please do so when you have a chance.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 10, 2018 20:03:14 GMT -5
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 10, 2018 20:03:35 GMT -5
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Post by Das (Former Giants GM) on Jan 10, 2018 20:05:32 GMT -5
I clicked Print, from the file menu on the browser, then saved the screen shot as a pdf, I can also forward the message to you.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 10, 2018 20:08:59 GMT -5
I use the snipping tool. Copy/paste into imgur.com under New Post. Copy URL and add .jpg to the end of the URL. On the baseknock.proboards.com/post/new/7905 (Post New) page, there is an icon to 'Insert image'. Insert the URL into the prompt with .jpg attached (reads "https://imgur.com/i6wGejG.jpg" for example). Windows has a dedicated Snipping Tool program. Not sure about Mac - though it looks like they have a shortcut.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 10, 2018 20:10:39 GMT -5
Check the files. Dave, if C.C. didn't create his account on your computer... this proves collusion. Even if you can explain it, this is a lot of evidence man.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 10, 2018 20:11:02 GMT -5
The files are straight from the league Security Log.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 10, 2018 20:21:06 GMT -5
Check the files. Dave, if C.C. didn't create his account on your computer... this proves collusion. Even if you can explain it, this is a lot of evidence man. Do the Rays have activity from an IP that the Nationals haven't used?
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 10, 2018 20:30:29 GMT -5
Yes. He has a second IP address that's 216.240.78.41. But I'm guessing that's Dave's desktop. I could be wrong though. That's why I want Dave to edit threads with both mobile and desktop and "C.C." to do the same.
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Post by Childish Gambino on Jan 10, 2018 22:01:24 GMT -5
Time to make a call to the bullpen!!!
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 10, 2018 22:34:39 GMT -5
After reading through this, I think you guys are making mountains out of mole hills. First off, if they are related and CC is a new owner, whose posts do you think he's gonna copy to fit in with the league? His cousins, of course. So I don't believe that's enough evidence. 2, if they are related, there's nothing against asking advice?! I think you're looking for ghosts. I don't think they'd cheat in a free league, and I'm not for removal.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 11, 2018 17:46:03 GMT -5
Dave (Former Nationals GM) and @cc44driver , could you both please edit a thread on your desktop and mobile devices if you have them. It would really help us solve this and keep you around if this isn't what it looks like.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 12, 2018 14:25:50 GMT -5
Is this trade cancelled?
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Jan 12, 2018 14:27:45 GMT -5
I mean it was a deal made with an owner that was apart of the league at the time and it had more approval votes than veto votes in the 48 hour time frame.
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Post by Padres GM (Denver) on Jan 12, 2018 14:33:44 GMT -5
All things aside, I don't really see a reason to not pass the trade. Diaz is a year removed from a pretty solid year. He is going to get opportunities in Toronto as has the skill set to turn it around. Also with points Travis made, I feel like y'all are looking way too deep into this, even though it is an important issue, I feel like were blowing it a little over the top. The deal has stood for over 48 hours with more pass votes than veto, and I would add another pass to this based on my idea that the potential moving both ways is pretty solid.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 12, 2018 15:01:49 GMT -5
I nominate this for Best Trade Review of 2018
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Jan 12, 2018 15:06:10 GMT -5
Can we pin this and keep it at the top forever?
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Post by Padres GM (Denver) on Jan 12, 2018 15:09:57 GMT -5
currently sits @ 4-1
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 12, 2018 15:50:41 GMT -5
I know there's opinions for the other option, but I'm going to say this deal is void. I've spoken to Kyle about it, and he's okay with it. We're currently reviewing whether or not to reverse the transaction between the Nationals and Rays last week. Thanks guys, sorry for the confusion over the past few days.
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 12, 2018 17:54:07 GMT -5
Rockies GM (Alex), why would you overturn it? The entire league approved it, you'd basically be saying we're all idiots if you did?
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 12, 2018 17:59:00 GMT -5
Rockies GM (Alex) , why would you overturn it? The entire league approved it, you'd basically be saying we're all idiots if you did? That's not the point - the deal was completed under false pretenses. Why would we force a new owner to live with this trade? Edit - I should rephrase - what merits this trade being acceptable? All the approves were given based on the presumption that C.C. was the acting owner which was not the case. Everyone should have a chance to redo their vote. Additionally, Kyle, the only person in the league whom this affects as of right now, has agreed.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 12, 2018 18:09:07 GMT -5
Rockies GM (Alex) , why would you overturn it? The entire league approved it, you'd basically be saying we're all idiots if you did? Travis, this has nothing to do with the contents of the trade. I'm 100% with you guys approving the players traded for the deal, but being Dave was literally running another team, I don't think we should let that pass. If the new Rays owner wants to make the EXACT same deal, we can just move this right back to the trade review when he's got a feel for his team. Does that work?
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 12, 2018 18:10:21 GMT -5
Why does that matter? There were 8 approves, and zero vetoes. Regardless of who made the trade, it was clearly a good trade, based on league replies.
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 12, 2018 18:13:04 GMT -5
You know how some teams explain their reasoning? There were zero explanations. Seemed cut and dry to me.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 12, 2018 18:15:14 GMT -5
You know how some teams explain their reasoning? There were zero explanations. Seemed cut and dry to me. Why are you literally against everything? Haha this is so silly to get worked up about
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Jan 12, 2018 18:32:06 GMT -5
Rockies GM (Alex), why would you overturn it? The entire league approved it, you'd basically be saying we're all idiots if you did?
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 12, 2018 18:36:23 GMT -5
You know how some teams explain their reasoning? There were zero explanations. Seemed cut and dry to me. Why are you literally against everything? Haha this is so silly to get worked up about This is what I thought about this whole situation. It was blown completely outta proportion by league staff and members. But, what's done is done. I can't change anything, as league staff will do what they want. So I'll shut up.
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 12, 2018 18:38:07 GMT -5
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 12, 2018 18:39:58 GMT -5
I happen to be of the opinion it was blown into the correct proportion.
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Jan 12, 2018 22:41:05 GMT -5
Will is all about blowing things correctly.
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