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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 31, 2019 16:31:03 GMT -5
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jan 31, 2019 18:31:23 GMT -5
I love this idea. We've been thinking about this for awhile, and I think this would really improve our free agency. Will's calculator makes it easy to implement this, as you can just enter the pts needed and see what your options are for different values for different amounts of years.
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Jan 31, 2019 20:29:29 GMT -5
I don't like this idea at all. Our system is really simple as is, we shouldn't have to consult a calculator/program everytime we post a bid.
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jan 31, 2019 20:34:02 GMT -5
I don't like this idea at all. Our system is really simple as is, we shouldn't have to consult a calculator/program everytime we post a bid. You don't have to consult it every time you bid. You can increase the years and keep the AAV the same and safely assume that you have a higher bid point total. You can also keep the same years and increase the bid by $0.3M like normal. There is a reason for this - primarily being that the league may be getting a little dense on single year FA contracts which this would help alleviate. This would also allow owners to better leverage future budget space to make bidding more competitive and, in my opinion, fun.
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Jan 31, 2019 20:35:07 GMT -5
I don't like this idea at all. Our system is really simple as is, we shouldn't have to consult a calculator/program everytime we post a bid. agreed.
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Jan 31, 2019 20:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 9, 2019 14:52:54 GMT -5
Would love to get more votes on this!
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Post by Gene (Former Athletics GM) on Feb 10, 2019 11:32:49 GMT -5
I've used a bid calculator in 2 leagues and it is not difficult at all and it actually moves the process along quicker if the settings so provide, instead of just $300k increases. I'll vote in favor, but am fine if we keep the current system as well. We might consider a shorter 1st week period (48 instead of 72 hours) as current ownership is pretty much "hands on" from the start.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 10, 2019 18:32:20 GMT -5
Agreed on the shorter week too. I would also suggest that we move restricted free agency to the beginning of free agency as a separate process from the rest of the free agents. I feel like the RFA's sometimes get a huge discount, because teams don't want to get their hands tied waiting for an owner to match or decline an offer while other players are going off the board. If we had it beforehand, teams could bid for what they'd pay a RFA, and then not miss out on any UFA's if their player is matched.
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Post by Blue Jays GM (Stephen) on Feb 10, 2019 20:09:36 GMT -5
I like the shorter week, but I would keep Restricted the same. It does create deals, but I think that is a good thing. With a shortened time clock, the money would be tied up for a shorted period of time.
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Feb 10, 2019 21:55:40 GMT -5
I agree with Stephen
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 10, 2019 23:49:48 GMT -5
I like the shorter week, but I would keep Restricted the same. It does create deals, but I think that is a good thing. With a shortened time clock, the money would be tied up for a shorted period of time. Why is that a good thing?
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Feb 11, 2019 7:58:02 GMT -5
That’s part of the point of using the tag. Right?
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Post by Blue Jays GM (Stephen) on Feb 11, 2019 9:06:05 GMT -5
I think it is a good thing because part of the reason we have restricted free agency is to try to retain guys. I also think it is a risk reward that is good for the league. Yes, you are risking tying up money, but it could turn out to be a steal. You want restricted to go faster? Put it on a 24 hour clock or make it to where deciding teams can’t make bids until they give their restricted free agent answer. That would get people back on the market faster. I think if RFA started earlier it would just make those players more expensive because that would be the only players people could bid on.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 11, 2019 13:46:07 GMT -5
Fair points. Lots to discuss. I think for the sake of the fact that this has been a discussion forever, let's determine if we're doing this new bidding system first and then move forward with other improvements.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 11, 2019 13:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by Mariners GM (Phil) on Feb 11, 2019 14:01:04 GMT -5
Is the current system still an option?
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Feb 11, 2019 14:02:47 GMT -5
Is the current system still an option? It's one of the options on the poll.
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Post by Mariners GM (Phil) on Feb 11, 2019 14:05:28 GMT -5
I’ll take current system plz
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 21, 2019 20:19:00 GMT -5
We have 20 votes. 2/3 of the league which is enough to make a change. Awesome! I think we should go with the Minimum Points Method. If you'e not sure what that is it's in Will's first comment on this thread. Enter in some salaries and try it out. Let's get any questions or changes we want with it (or if there's another method idea completely) out in the air and talk through it.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Apr 20, 2019 12:40:29 GMT -5
I'll get this new system in clear writing sometime during the summer and send out a mass PM explaining how it will work for the upcoming Free Agency. Not a huge change, but will help more teams get involved in the bidding, and also encourage more multi-year contracts, rather than one year deals.
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Post by Nationals GM (Tim) on Jun 21, 2019 6:29:35 GMT -5
I thought it might be relevant to highlight this post once again, in case anyone forgot about the upcoming changes next offseason.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Jun 21, 2019 11:23:32 GMT -5
Nationals GM (Tim), thanks Tim. Astros GM (Will), I think the only hurdle in implementing this is making sure everyone knows exactly how it works. Would you mind putting together a post that explains the minimum point system? With 22 in favor, I think we're in position to definitely move forward. Thanks!
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Post by Astros GM (Will) on Jun 24, 2019 12:31:56 GMT -5
Nationals GM (Tim) , thanks Tim. Astros GM (Will) , I think the only hurdle in implementing this is making sure everyone knows exactly how it works. Would you mind putting together a post that explains the minimum point system? With 22 in favor, I think we're in position to definitely move forward. Thanks! Posted.
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Sept 6, 2019 22:45:48 GMT -5
Just to help keep the ball rolling, where are we at with this? I know FA is still weeks away, but figure it'd be good to get some closure here so we know if we're getting this in the coming offseason/teams can acclimate themselves to new rules, etc. if they're coming.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Sept 7, 2019 18:30:10 GMT -5
We have a system in place... Will has created a bidding calculator that we will be using. See his post explaining the system. The bidding calculator is on the sidebar.
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