DBacks/Royals Trade

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

The Diamondbacks agree to trade:

2025 ARI 5th Round Pick

Collin McHugh, RP
2023: 1M


To the Royals in exchange for:

Jose Abreu, 1B
2024: 20.5M

15.3M in Cap Coverage


This gives me batting depth that I’m needing. Appreciate the quick talks as always Bill!

[Royals GM (Bill)]

I accept. Trying to accumulate picks for next year do happy tp pick one up for a rental.

[Nationals GM (Tim)]

Veto. 15.3 mil cap coverage and a 400+ point player for a 5th is not cutting it.

[Brewers GM (Tim)]

Approve

[Cardinals GM (Nik)]

Veto. I’m in agreement with Tim on this one.

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

Veto. More needed, agreed.

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

baseknock.proboards.com/thread/11830/astros-nationals

Baez was just traded for a 10th. The point difference between Baez and Abreu is 70 points. So a 5th for Abreu is not enough but a 10th for Baez was more than enough? Both are on expiring deals. Nationals GM (Tim), Cardinals GM (Nik), Rockies GM (Alex)?

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

I thought that deal was veto able as well. I didn’t see it in time and didn’t vote.

[Nationals GM (Tim)]

This trade involves an extra 7 million in cap coverage. We’ve established cap coverage carries value in this league. Does the value of picks in the 5th round and 10th round differ enough to cover the 7 million in cap coverage between our deals ?

[Nationals GM (Tim)]

I guess it’s the amount of cap covered that makes me uneasy.

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

Well it's a 1 year deal, FA is over, and Bill is rebuilding. So the cap in this situation is somewhat moot. Not to mention he's gaining cap by moving off the Abreu contract just like you got with moving off Baez. This isn't a longterm cap coverage where it's beyond just this year.

[Cubs GM (Tanner)]

Approve. Don't think this is too egregious for a guy who is 37 and had well below a league average year offensively last season.

[Nationals GM (Tim)]

Talked it out with Kyle. Enough to convince me to change my vote to approve. However, I’ll still say cap coverage after free agency has ended still has value because without it, trades likely wouldn’t happen as often during the season. So that particular argument is not a moot point.

[Pirates GM (Max)]

Approve. What exactly are we doing here with vetoing this?

Abreu got this wild overpay of a contract because of how free agency unfolded and not spending the fake money would be worse than overpaying basically any player. So using the amount of cap coverage as an excuse for a veto is beyond silly

If you wanna say Abreu the player is worth more than a 5th, I won't disagree with you, but I will challenge you by saying - since when does "oh man, I wouldn't do this trade" equal a veto? This trade does not materially harm the Royals franchise or materially alter the balance of the league in favor of the Diamondbacks franchise

Let people run their damn teams

[Phillies GM (Zach)]

I agree with Max. There’s no evidence of collusion here and the trade isn’t so lopsided that it warrants a veto in my book. Also, citing the Baez trade seals it for me. That trade was approved so should this one.

Approve.

[Marlins GM (Travis)]

Baez is trash, doesn't seal anything for me. I'd rather not have a SS than have Baez.

[Phillies GM (Zach)]

Marlins GM (Travis), you approved that trade...

[Marlins GM (Travis)]

Feb 12, 2024 13:38:33 GMT -5 Phillies GM (Zach) said:

Marlins GM (Travis), you approved that trade...

And I didn't veto this one smart-ass

[Yankees GM (Jacob)]

Approve

[Astros GM (Will)]

D'backs GM (Kyle), Royals GM (Bill), official (6-2). Processed.