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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 17:28:37 GMT -5
The White Sox agree to sending the following players:
Colby Rasmus 13) 5.4M
First Round Amature Draft Pick
Brandon Crawford 13) .4M
For the Tigers:
Hunter Pence 13) 11.5 (Tugers agree to pay 3M of his contract)
I accept, Crawford was a big piece of my team, and I think Rasmus plus a pick was a worthy upgrade to getting Hunter Pence. Also he is got a discounted price.
Nice working with you again Jacob
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Feb 26, 2013 17:35:26 GMT -5
I accept. Pence only averages .4 more points than Rasmus and even though Rasmus's contract is ridiculous, i can afford it. I get the second pick in the draft, and Crawford can be my starting SS until Profar comes up. Rebuild is pretty much complete now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 17:55:44 GMT -5
Approve
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Post by Royals GM (Bill) on Feb 26, 2013 19:56:14 GMT -5
Approve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 20:29:16 GMT -5
approve 3-0
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Post by Angels GM (Derrick) on Feb 27, 2013 5:06:55 GMT -5
Uh?....Pence is only slightly better then Rasmus, how is the 2nd overall pick plus Crawford fair compensation for a guy that's only slightly better? Keep in mind this is a points league. Veto....(3-1)
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Feb 27, 2013 9:25:27 GMT -5
First off its pence not bourn and pence outscored rasmuse by 130 points total last year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 9:54:59 GMT -5
Rasmus = Pence, plus Rasmus is cheaper and younger. Pence is coming off of the worst season of his career thus far so who knows what we will get out of him this season. The 2nd overall pick is also very valuable as Derrick said and can net you an absolute stud. I'm in agreement with Derrick so I will veto as well. 3-2
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 10:21:09 GMT -5
I think Detroit is getting way to much out of this deal, I will veto this as well. 3-3
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Feb 27, 2013 11:38:24 GMT -5
Rasmus = Pence, plus Rasmus is cheaper and younger. Pence is coming off of the worst season of his career thus far so who knows what we will get out of him this season. The 2nd overall pick is also very valuable as Derrick said and can net you an absolute stud. I'm in agreement with Derrick so I will veto as well. 3-2 Pence scored 130 more points in a down year and nevrr gets hurt. How. Are they equal? |
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Feb 27, 2013 12:47:54 GMT -5
Approve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 14:46:04 GMT -5
Rasmus = Pence, plus Rasmus is cheaper and younger. Pence is coming off of the worst season of his career thus far so who knows what we will get out of him this season. The 2nd overall pick is also very valuable as Derrick said and can net you an absolute stud. I'm in agreement with Derrick so I will veto as well. 3-2 Pence scored 130 more points in a down year and nevrr gets hurt. How. Are they equal? Pence scored less than 100 points more. |
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Feb 27, 2013 15:19:54 GMT -5
Wow i read that wrong, well its still a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 15:35:15 GMT -5
i veto as well. 4-4
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 27, 2013 23:29:26 GMT -5
Sorry, Jake. I don' get this one at all. That top pick is worth a LOT. Let's not forget Crawford is a solid, up-and-coming short-stop. (4-5)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 1:00:34 GMT -5
Approve. If the Sox want Pence and think he is due a big year, he should be able to make this trade for him. He is giving up a lot with the draft pick, but if that is what it takes to get a guy he has a feeling about we shouldn't stop him. I understand the purpose of voting on trades, but this trade is not going to sink the Sox.
Also, Crawford is a solid major league shortstop, but a below average fantasy shortstop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 19:30:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this still would count, but I veto this trade. That top pick has to be work more than that.
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Feb 28, 2013 19:46:06 GMT -5
So Is this vetoed or passed
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Feb 28, 2013 19:50:39 GMT -5
We don't have a clarification in the rules about this... for now, next vote decides it I guess.
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Post by Jacob (Former Tigers GM) on Mar 1, 2013 20:23:03 GMT -5
Can we get a final vote?
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Post by Royals GM (Bill) on Mar 1, 2013 20:49:08 GMT -5
I say approve. Rasmus is a bust and is more hype than substance. With Pence the hate has gone too far....in spite of his second half woes, the dude finished the year w/104 RBIs. The number two pick is admittedly too much to compensate for the difference between the two but not enough to merit a veto. Crawford is irrelevant from a fantasy perspective great glove; no stick. Pence is better than you guys are giving him credit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 21:01:42 GMT -5
So it's official?
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Post by Angels GM (Derrick) on Mar 2, 2013 4:28:56 GMT -5
Lol....so my trade with LAD was vetoed but this one will go through? I was giving up a projected 359pts in Callaspo, & 311pts in Danks in exchange for the 4th overall pick, & a 5th rounder. With me getting no MLB talent in return. baseknock.proboards.com/thread/3823/lad-laa#page=2In this deal DET is giving up a projected 512pts in Pence. Yet he's getting a projected 419pts in Rasmus, as well as 254 pts in Crawford to go along with the 2nd overall pick. I was giving up a combined projected 670 points in exchange for the 4th overall pick, and a 5th rounder. While DET is giving up a projected 512 points in Pence in exchange for a combined projected 653 points in Rasmus, & Crawford plus the 2nd overall pick. DET wins this trade in projected points as well as landing the 2nd overall pick. SMH This kind of stuff makes me laugh....just show some consistency in the valuation of draft picks. |
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Post by Royals GM (Bill) on Mar 2, 2013 10:23:16 GMT -5
You know, not to make this more of a controversy than it is but I already voted on this deal. The second entry with the commentary shouldn't carry any weight, since I've already voted once. It's simply an opinion. The actual vote hasn't changed yet.
Sorry about introducing more confusion.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Mar 2, 2013 19:42:39 GMT -5
We still... need one more vote. Royals had already voted once...
*I should have approved that previous deal Derrick, idk what I was thinking. Sorry about that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 18:16:51 GMT -5
veto, I got Skaggs and Volquez for 1.1
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Mar 3, 2013 23:13:53 GMT -5
Thank you Noah for finally voting. And to now clarify the rules, a deal is passed with 9 approves, and cancelled with 6 vetoes. So this deal would have been cancelled anyway, from now on, a deal will be cancelled at 6 vetoes... I had forgotten about this rule so I was waiting for a tie-breaker after 48 hours.
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