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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 20:57:53 GMT -5
Athletics Acquire:
2B Howie Kendrick (14.5M)(14.5M)
OF Melky Cabrera (13M)
SP Mike Foltywicz (300k)
14M in 2015 cash (some from melky some from howie)
White Sox Acquire:
OF Anthony Alford (300k)
2B Tony Kemp (300k)
SS Tanner Rahier (300k)
OF Jake Marisnick (13M)(13M)(13M)
99% positive this is the deal. Correct me if I am wrong Clayton. Good dealing and good luck.
Tough to lose Marisnick, a long term starter and future star, but I get a similar replacement in the short term with Melky, and an upgrade at second base with Howie Kendrick. Tony Kemp is a favorite but the deal brought in a little bit of offense.
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Mar 24, 2015 21:50:57 GMT -5
Alford and Kemp are admittedly good prospects, but it takes more than one good prospect to acquire a good player. Rahier has been awful since getting drafted, and Marisnick isn't close to the 13M he's getting paid. Take into account that in addition to the 13M Marisnick's getting paid, the White Sox are the ones covering salary, have to veto this one. Though with some more quality prospects going Chicago's way, could be passable down the road.
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Mar 24, 2015 22:11:36 GMT -5
1st this is posted in the wrong area. Trade reviews are suppose to posted in trade reviews.
2nd, this is an easy veto. Horrible trade. I agree with most of what Mike said. Although I don't consider them "good" specs. Throw in the fact that Rahier is in legal trouble for allegedly beating up a woman. What you have is an extremely lopsided trade.
Veto (0-2)
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Mar 24, 2015 22:11:36 GMT -5
Veto, much the same logic as Orioles. White Sox aren't getting enough, Athletics get both Kendrick and Cabrera, along with top #100 Minor Leaguer in Folt (According to MLB.com, which I honestly don't agree with that ranking), and Athletics get cash on top of that. Sox only get two players who bat in low .200's in their minor league careers in Rahier and Alford (Alford batted .320 in only 25AB's at one level, hardly enough AB's to count), and Kemp who is a solid prospect. Just needs more.
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Post by Marlins GM (Travis) on Mar 24, 2015 22:16:47 GMT -5
I will say though Noah, it's not your fault other teams accept a lopsided trade, that is the other teams fault. But the way trade vetoes are in the rules (which it is that way so this can be a more competitive league, which is good in my opinion), is only reason you get vetoed on some trades.
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Mar 24, 2015 22:22:39 GMT -5
White sox still haven't accepted this trade
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Mar 25, 2015 1:00:40 GMT -5
Veto. For the reasons stated above. Deal is cancelled.
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Mar 25, 2015 8:22:54 GMT -5
I still don't know why we were all voting when the white sox never accepted...
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Mar 25, 2015 8:49:17 GMT -5
I guess to be proactive?
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Mar 25, 2015 8:54:28 GMT -5
But what if the white sox didn't agree to this? We should wait until they are accepted
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Post by Mike (Former Mets GM) on Mar 25, 2015 9:36:18 GMT -5
Well it's all on the assumption the other team will confirm. How often does a team not accept a trade?
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Mar 25, 2015 9:41:21 GMT -5
It has happened a few times. One team will post the trade and something will be wrong, or an owner slept on the idea and now no longer wishes to make the trade. Ask Noah, he has jumped the gun a couple times.
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Post by D'backs GM (Kyle) on Mar 25, 2015 9:56:47 GMT -5
^fact
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 10:21:20 GMT -5
I even mentioned that I wasn't sure if the deal was 100% correct, as I was going off memory from a private chat.
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Post by Braves GM (Jared) on Mar 25, 2015 10:25:58 GMT -5
Exactly. So have you talked to the white sox since?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 10:27:43 GMT -5
No, he hasn't even been on yet haha.
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Post by Rockies GM (Alex) on Mar 25, 2015 11:24:48 GMT -5
Noah I don't think you should post trades that haven't even been... fully agreed upon and determined, not just by memory.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 12:02:55 GMT -5
It was fully agreed on and determined, but my computer has been having major issues lately and shut down just after Clayton told me over chatango to post. By the time my computer got back up and running, it was 20-25 minutes later, the chat log was gone, and Clayton had signed out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 20:12:27 GMT -5
I accept. I'm doesn't do much looks like it's vetoed
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Post by Matt (Former Padres GM) on Mar 25, 2015 20:33:09 GMT -5
It was fully agreed on and determined, but my computer has been having major issues lately and shut down just after Clayton told me over chatango to post. By the time my computer got back up and running, it was 20-25 minutes later, the chat log was gone, and Clayton had signed out. If this is true, I think the best course of action would have been to wait until you confirmed the information with Clayton through PM to make sure there were no mistakes on what you thought was on the private chat |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 20:40:20 GMT -5
Alright. I'll do that next time I am in a situation such as this.
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Post by Orioles GM (Michael) on Mar 25, 2015 21:33:34 GMT -5
Why does it matter though? If it's not gonna pass anyway, not like White Sox are effected either way. Not like we'd be approving the deal if White Sox did confirm. Yeah, Noah should wait and confirm, but not sure it's worth all the hullaballoo we're giving it in this case. Anyway, this deal ain't happening.
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