BOS/ARI

[Red Sox GM (Sean)]

Red Sox trades away:

Hyun-Jin Ryu (TOR) $6.00
Michael Pineda (MIN) $5.00 $5.00 $5.00
75% cap coverage on ryu in 2021 (4.5)
75% cap coverage on Pineda in 2021 (3.75)

D-Backs trade away:

Tony Gonsolin (LAD) milb $0.30
2021 2nd round fypd pick (ARI)

I accept this trade as it gets me future pieces to help future Sean contend good luck and good dealings Kyle

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

Accept.

I really really like Gonsolin and his upside. The guy has been great since making the majors. I’m sure I’ll look back and regret not having him but I’m giving my team the best chance to win now. Great trade discussion Sean!

[Brewers GM (Tim)]

Approve

[Blue Jays GM (Stephen)]

Approve. Boo Future Sean! #rivalry

[Cardinals GM (Nik)]

Was Ryu's future comp pick considered in this trade?

[Cardinals GM (Nik)]

Or Gonsolin's shoulder injury?

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

Apr 15, 2021 9:20:25 GMT -5 Cardinals GM (Nik) said:

Was Ryu's future comp pick considered in this trade?

Ryu isn’t eligible for a comp pick as of right now.

[Cardinals GM (Nik)]

Apr 15, 2021 9:36:52 GMT -5 D'backs GM (Kyle) said:

Apr 15, 2021 9:20:25 GMT -5 Cardinals GM (Nik) said:

Was Ryu's future comp pick considered in this trade?

Ryu isn’t eligible for a comp pick as of right now.

"As of right now" - He needs just 228 points more this year to be worth comp B and 428 for Comp A

[D'backs GM (Kyle)]

And if he gets hurt or struggles then there is no comp pick.

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

Dude, Sean. You're going to most likely give that second round pick at minimum right back to Kyle in the form of a COMP B pick. So just want to confirm that you like Gonsolin, who just had a concerning injury prognosis to give, enough to give Kyle a Cy Young winner and another mid rotation starter for multiple seasons. Red Sox GM (Sean),

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

As of now, I'm a veto unless I hear from Sean a better reason. This is no different than my Darvish trade that was just vetoed, especially with Gonsolin being hurt and another reliable starting pitcher in the trade.

[Nationals GM (Tim)]

Apr 15, 2021 9:36:52 GMT -5 D'backs GM (Kyle) said:

Apr 15, 2021 9:20:25 GMT -5 Cardinals GM (Nik) said:

Was Ryu's future comp pick considered in this trade?

Ryu isn’t eligible for a comp pick as of right now.

Neither was Darvish. I say that because that was used against Alex in the veto of the Darvish deal.

I am going to be a veto here. 3 years of a cost controlled starting pitcher plus the remainder of this season for an ace who, in all likelihood, will at least earn a Comp B pick, if not a comp A.

That trade would equate to a cancelling out of the draft picks being exchanged.

So now the rest of the deal would be the remainder of Ryu’s production this season plus Pineda for Gonsolin on a spec deal. The story I read yesterday says he (Gonsolin) hasn’t even started throwing yet and any shoulder/arm injury must be taken into consideration when looking at the value of the players being exchanged.

I think that gives him some major bullpen risk. I’d like to see another spec (45 FV range) added to the deal for me to approve.

[Red Sox GM (Sean)]

This is a good move for me regardless of the comp pick I’m not worried about the gonslin injury his long term appeal is still vary high to me especially still on his milb contract

[Phillies GM (Zach)]

As someone who was looking to get Ryu I will abstain from voting. However, have no problem saying my offer definitely wouldn’t be getting vetoed 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Orioles GM (Michael)]

Veto. For the "Ryu may not be eligible for a comp pick" argument to be plausible, you basically have to believe no player is worth anything because any player can just suck at any second. Baseball nihilism isn't how we assess deals here.

[Nationals GM (Tim)]

Did you say nihilist? 

[Rangers GM (Ahmed)]

This deals a veto for me too, sorry guys

[Rockies GM (Alex)]

4 vetoes. Deal is cancelled.